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Originally posted by kleineRatte
Thanks too both of you! :-]
Lush, you may guess were I got my inspiration from...

Indeed, I can.

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Originally posted by ilex011
The sale of real absinthe is prohibited in the States. So no place is going to be serving it. Not the real stuff anyway.

And yet I've been to a few places that sell it as a "tincture" or whatnot. I've had real absinthe here before but it's definitely not common. There might still be a bar I've heard of in NOLA that has a rather fancy absinthe contraption that waters it down just right, too. Cannot remember the name of the place at all but now I must bother someone whom I know does.

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I've had what was proposed to be "real" absinthe (it wasn't), and oh god do I hate hate hate the taste. I cannot abide anise or black liquorice in any capacity. My own personal hell consists of being forced to imbibe these noxious substances. (no offense to anyone who likes them, heh!)

I can relate somewhat! I actually really hate most black licorice with the exception of Lucky Country Soft Licorice from Australia and Tyrkisk Peber from Finland, the latter of which is hard and kind of spicy with a salty center. In other words, I can enjoy it if it's mixed with something either sweet and flowery or spicy and salty but I've not found any other black licorice besides those two that doesn't make me ill.

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The attraction of Red Bull is also something else that eludes me. Perhaps I'm rather pedestrian in my tastes...

Well, I'm a vodka drinker, so when I want it to taste very sweet and like candy, Red Bull does the trick. I like it because it reminds me of the taste of a certain candy I had when I was a kid and have not found again for many years.

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Originally posted by lushmachine
I'll bring the vodka ... you've already got some good absinthe at your place, LePand.

She's obviously got good *something*!



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Originally posted by lushmachine

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Originally posted by ilex011
The sale of real absinthe is prohibited in the States. So no place is going to be serving it. Not the real stuff anyway.

And yet I've been to a few places that sell it as a "tincture" or whatnot. I've had real absinthe here before but it's definitely not common. There might still be a bar I've heard of in NOLA that has a rather fancy absinthe contraption that waters it down just right, too. Cannot remember the name of the place at all but now I must bother someone whom I know does.

I bet after it gets diluted to a certain point they can get around it being pure "absinthe" and can therefore sell it. I wonder if they must call it something else besides "absinthe" though.

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I can relate somewhat! I actually really hate most black licorice with the exception of Lucky Country Soft Licorice from Australia and Tyrkisk Peber from Finland, the latter of which is hard and kind of spicy with a salty center. In other words, I can enjoy it if it's mixed with something either sweet and flowery or spicy and salty but I've not found any other black licorice besides those two that doesn't make me ill.

Oh god, even the description is enough to make me feel queasy and repulsed...
No Jägermeister for me! Or Goldschlager either, come to think of it. Some people mix the two... *shivers*...

*thinks happy thoughts... vanilla stoli... cape cods... ahhh, much better!*

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Well, I'm a vodka drinker, so when I want it to taste very sweet and like candy, Red Bull does the trick. I like it because it reminds me of the taste of a certain candy I had when I was a kid and have not found again for many years.

I like vodka too- but to me, Red Bull and vodka tastes like cough syrup!

But! Have to say I did recently discover Tuaca (yeah, yeah, color me late on the uptake) and liked it a lot. Boy, it's really strong. And I'm not a big Holley either.

But soooo tasty! Vanilla and citrus. Mmmm.

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Originally posted by ilex011
She's obviously got good *something*!
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:lol:

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Originally posted by ilex011
I bet after it gets diluted to a certain point they can get around it being pure "absinthe" and can therefore sell it. I wonder if they must call it something else besides "absinthe" though.

It's actually supposed to be diluted so that it doesn't taste so much like anise and the other, unique flavors come out. Good absinthe doesn't need sugar added but when I had it they put a sugar cube on the spoon thing (looked like a garden tool to me) to sweeten it and that dissolved with the water into the absinthe. It's looks kind of cloudy afterwards so yeah, very possible this process goes around the laws but I'm not an expert.

I really should learn more about this if I plan on opening a night club in the future, shouldn't I? Maybe diluted absinthe glows under black lights just like tonic does?! I'm just not that much of a casual drinker I guess. I go out to dance. And socialize, which is something I started in my late twenties after many years of being too focused on music and dancing.

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Oh god, even the description is enough to make me feel queasy and repulsed...
No Jägermeister for me! Or Goldschlager either, come to think of it. Some people mix the two... *shivers*...

*thinks happy thoughts... vanilla stoli... cape cods... ahhh, much better!*

So Jäger and Red Bull would be your pretty close to being your Kryptonite?

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I like vodka too- but to me, Red Bull and vodka tastes like cough syrup!

That's how I feel about Pomegranate Martinis. I love martinis and I love pomegranate, just have learned the hard way that I don't like them together. It's like fruity Nyquil!

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But! Have to say I did recently discover Tuaca (yeah, yeah, color me late on the uptake) and liked it a lot. Boy, it's really strong. And I'm not a big Holley either.

But soooo tasty! Vanilla and citrus. Mmmm.

My favorite mixed drink is called Stoli Around the World. I put up the ingredients for it on my MySpace blog early this year. If you should visit Chicago someday and I'm in town, we will acquire these drinks and together we will be happy. Not as happy as LePand's bus of sexually questionable cartoon mascots but, you know, happy enough in a different way. :tongue:

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Originally posted by lushmachine

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Originally posted by ilex011
She's obviously got good *something*!
:tongue:

:lol:

Would you believe me if I tell you this is me with no *good something* at all? With *good something* I´m even better (or worse?)
Anyway, it is more likable to get the in transit special box edition than getting absinthe here. Life in the south is hard!
I would recommend you the wine here :perfekt:

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Originally posted by lushmachine
I really should learn more about this if I plan on opening a night club in the future, shouldn't I?

I used to be a waitress on fridays and saturdays, all night long, It´s hard to be "on duty" while everyone is having good time...

Back on the birthdays thing, today was the birthday of a living legend of music here. We call him the Argentinian Elvis, his alias is Sandro, he is 62 years old, and as usual, hundreds of fat old ladies gathered at his house to celebrate it, singing his songs. Of course I was there. Bizarre indeed.
http://www.myspace.com/elhombredelarosa
If shakira is now a gothic girl, I´m a Sandro fan.

Amen.

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Original von LePand
Anyway, it is more likable to get the in transit special box edition than getting absinthe here. Life in the south is hard!

:lol:

I just learned there's no absinthe in the US, but Jägermeister.
Seems to me that life in the north isn't that easy, too.

I mean, of all things Jägermeister... really. That stuff used to be something for grandmas with digestion problems until they changed their marketing strategy.

Absinthe is now allowed at the EU. I have to admit I wasn’t that impressed. It makes a nice show with sugar and fire but I never saw any green fairies or something. Maybe I just didn't drink enough?

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Originally posted by kleineRatte

I just learned there's no absinthe in the US, but Jägermeister.
Seems to me that life in the north isn't that easy, too.

Let´s move to the center of the earth?

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Originally posted by kleineRatteI mean, of all things Jägermeister... really. That stuff used to be something for grandmas with digestion problems until they changed their marketing strategy.

Absinthe is now allowed at the EU. I have to admit I wasn’t that impressed. It makes a nice show with sugar and fire but I never saw any green fairies or something. Maybe I just didn't drink enough?

My grandma used to tell me "come here you f***ing little green elf!" while running after me with a broom. Now I know why :tongue:

I tryed absinthe only once, a friend brought a bottle from a trip. I only remember my throat burning like hell. And how I hate anise stuff.
My best friend also bought a bottle. One night he was feeling a little but upset so he had 4 shots of absinthe, he was in the tub and passed out. He woke up few hours later noticing that he had tryed to cut his wrists. And he wasn´t THAT depressed... So I believe in the power of real Absinthe!

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Originally posted by kleineRatte
I just learned there's no absinthe in the US, but Jägermeister.
Seems to me that life in the north isn't that easy, too.

Ha! Yes indeed. We have all the Jägermeister one could ever not possibly hope to want.

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I mean, of all things Jägermeister... really. That stuff used to be something for grandmas with digestion problems until they changed their marketing strategy.

Well, whomever did so must have gotten seriously promoted because that crap is popular!

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Absinthe is now allowed at the EU. I have to admit I wasn’t that impressed. It makes a nice show with sugar and fire but I never saw any green fairies or something. Maybe I just didn't drink enough?

The hallucinogenic properties of it are highly, highly exaggerated from what I understand. At least lately anyway. I think the active constituent was a lot more, er, active before it was banned.

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Originally posted by lushmachine
It's actually supposed to be diluted so that it doesn't taste so much like anise and the other, unique flavors come out. Good absinthe doesn't need sugar added but when I had it they put a sugar cube on the spoon thing (looked like a garden tool to me) to sweeten it and that dissolved with the water into the absinthe. It's looks kind of cloudy afterwards so yeah, very possible this process goes around the laws but I'm not an expert.

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I wonder how much of the past alleged hallucinogenic properties were due to mass consumption of the alcohol, or to the thujone, or just frankly to the expectation of performance being its reputation has always seemed to precede it. The mythology surrounding it seems a lot more romantic and vibrant than the actual libation!

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I really should learn more about this if I plan on opening a night club in the future, shouldn't I?

Nah. That's what a really good bartender (or two) is for.
It's all about knowing who to delegate to!

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Holley: Oh god, even the description is enough to make me feel queasy and repulsed...
No Jägermeister for me! Or Goldschlager either, come to think of it. Some people mix the two... *shivers*...

*thinks happy thoughts... vanilla stoli... cape cods... ahhh, much better!*

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Lush: So Jäger and Red Bull would be your pretty much your Kryptonite?

Yes, now that you mention it. I am rendered powerless in the face of anise or licorice.


Or onions. Or bell pepper. But that's a different thread...

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Holley: I like vodka too- but to me, Red Bull and vodka tastes like cough syrup!

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That's how I feel about Pomegranate Martinis. I love martinis and I love pomegranate, just have learned the hard way that I don't like them together. It's like fruity Nyquil!

Gah- I tried Pomegranate Smirnoff Ice and it was *terrible*... also tasted like crappy cough syrup! Was so disappointed. I like pomegranates too.

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My favorite mixed drink is called Stoli Around the World. I put up the ingredients for it on my MySpace blog early this year. If you should visit Chicago someday and I'm in town, we will acquire these drinks and together we will be happy. Not as happy as LePand's bus of sexually questionable cartoon mascots but, you know, happy enough in a different way. :tongue:

If I visit Chicago someday I would *hope* you're in town!

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Originally posted by LePand
Would you believe me if I tell you this is me with no *good something* at all? With *good something* I´m even better (or worse?)

I would believe you but for the comic aspect of this thread, I'm willing to pretend you're on "something good" at least once a while. Honestly, I'm not into drugs at all because of very hard lessons learned early in my life, so I take the subject in jest in many ways.

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Anyway, it is more likable to get the in transit special box edition than getting absinthe here. Life in the south is hard!
I would recommend you the wine here :perfekt:

I totally understand that feeling ... but yes, I live in a place of plenty. Yet people always want whatever they cannot have no matter how much they do have, I feel. So nice things should be appreciated, even box set DVDs.

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Back on the birthdays thing, today was the birthday of a living legend of music here. We call him the Argentinian Elvis, his alias is Sandro, he is 62 years old, and as usual, hundreds of fat old ladies gathered at his house to celebrate it, singing his songs. Of course I was there. Bizarre indeed.
http://www.myspace.com/elhombredelarosa
If shakira is now a gothic girl, I´m a Sandro fan.

Amen.

Sandro. Shakira. Elvis. Goth Shakira? My head is spinning a bit.

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Originally posted by kleineRatte

I just learned there's no absinthe in the US, but Jägermeister.
Seems to me that life in the north isn't that easy, too.

That's right, no legal absinthe at least. But just as the drinking age is 21 years old, there are ways around liquor sales laws. People are crafty everywhere in the world, like saying goes, "rules were made to be broken." I may not always fully agree but people have ways of bending them.

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I mean, of all things Jägermeister... really. That stuff used to be something for grandmas with digestion problems until they changed their marketing strategy.

Oh yes, it's very popular. I don't drink it often but an old friend of mine would drink many shots of it until she was ill!

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Absinthe is now allowed at the EU. I have to admit I wasn’t that impressed. It makes a nice show with sugar and fire but I never saw any green fairies or something. Maybe I just didn't drink enough?

It is very fun and presentational when done right but I think it's more for show than anything. I also think it's partly because it's a mysterious drink not originally made for leisure (I think I recall it was medicine originally) and people associate it with hallucinations, the "little green faeries" inside it as the story goes. The chemical that did that isn't added anymore, so it's just a once banned liquor that has this dark past.

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Originally posted by ilex011
I wonder how much of the past alleged hallucinogenic properties were due to mass consumption of the alcohol, or to the thujone, or just frankly to the expectation of performance being its reputation has always seemed to precede it. The mythology surrounding it seems a lot more romantic and vibrant than the actual libation!

Thank you, it was thujone that I couldn't remember the name of! From what I recall, it was added in addition or made so that the levels of it were higher back in the day. That and that romantic notion that a green faerie was inside must have given it reputation. :tongue:

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Nah. That's what a really good bartender (or two) is for.
It's all about knowing who to delegate to!

Yeah, but that implies trust. Time to make more alcohol-loving friends that are good with money?

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I am rendered powerless in the face of anise or licorice.


Or onions. Or bell pepper. But that's a different thread...

Wow, I love onions. I grew up with Polish family so if I didn't eat potatoes, onions, sausage, or cabbage I might have been disowned. Bell peppers are great ... with onions. But yes, that's another thread: What Not to Cook for Holley.

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If I visit Chicago someday I would *hope* you're in town!

Well, I visit friends in other parts of the country whenever I can. Too bad I live so close to O'Hare, since Midway's Southwest Airlines has really wild airfare to TX, like $79 round trip if you do standby. I feel like I'm constantly at O'Hare.

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Originally posted by ilex011
I wonder how much of the past alleged hallucinogenic properties were due to mass consumption of the alcohol, or to the thujone, or just frankly to the expectation of performance being its reputation has always seemed to precede it. The mythology surrounding it seems a lot more romantic and vibrant than the actual libation!

Thank you, it was thujone that I couldn't remember the name of! From what I recall, it was added in addition or made so that the levels of it were higher back in the day. That and that romantic notion that a green faerie was inside must have given it reputation. :tongue:

Absinthe is flavoured with wormwood (artemisia absinthium). This plant includes a poisonous substance, thujone. In former times the thujone was judged to cause the addiction to absinthe as well as the damages of body and mind that followed it, so the drink was banned in most countries.
Modern studies showed that most of the damage was actually done by the alcohol. There’re absinthes with over 70% vol. alcohol.
So today you can be sure you don’t do your body a favor with drinking this stuff, but it’s almost the same with Jägermeister. And it tastes much better! *And* you've got that show. :lol:
Besides, there are absinthes without any anis for those who don’t like the taste.

Sorry for showing off, but plants are one of my favorite hobbies. :sch:

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I mean, of all things Jägermeister... really. That stuff used to be something for grandmas with digestion problems until they changed their marketing strategy.

Well, whomever did so must have gotten seriously promoted because that crap is popular!

When I was a little girl and alcohol ads on posters and in newspapers were still allowed (back in the eighties… good old times…) the Jägermeister advertisement was really bad. It was so very old fashioned and ridiculous. Just matching the name and the deer logo.
There were well dressed men and women around 50, sitting in an armchair, holding a kind of cognac glass, smiling frontal at the camera and explaining something like “I drink Jägermeister because I like to celebrate my well-earned evening at home”.
Nobody would have *ever* thought of selling that stuff as a fancy fashion drink.

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Originally posted by kleineRatte
Absinthe is flavoured with wormwood (artemisia absinthium). This plant includes a poisonous substance, thujone. In former times the thujone was judged to cause the addiction to absinthe as well as the damages of body and mind that followed it, so the drink was banned in most countries.
Modern studies showed that most of the damage was actually done by the alcohol. There’re absinthes with over 70% vol. alcohol.
So today you can be sure you don’t do your body a favor with drinking this stuff, but it’s almost the same with Jägermeister. And it tastes much better! *And* you've got that show. :lol:
Besides, there are absinthes without any anis for those who don’t like the taste.

Sorry for showing off, but plants are one of my favorite hobbies. :sch:

See, now that is the type of educated info this topic needed. Thank you!

*raises glass of juice*

Edit: Ironically enough, Absythesis just came on my random shuffle.

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Originally posted by lushmachine

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Originally posted by kleineRatte
Absinthe is flavoured with wormwood (artemisia absinthium). This plant includes a poisonous substance, thujone. In former times the thujone was judged to cause the addiction to absinthe as well as the damages of body and mind that followed it, so the drink was banned in most countries.
Modern studies showed that most of the damage was actually done by the alcohol. There’re absinthes with over 70% vol. alcohol.
So today you can be sure you don’t do your body a favor with drinking this stuff, but it’s almost the same with Jägermeister. And it tastes much better! *And* you've got that show. :lol:
Besides, there are absinthes without any anis for those who don’t like the taste.

Sorry for showing off, but plants are one of my favorite hobbies. :sch:

See, now that is the type of educated info this topic needed. Thank you!

Yeah! now I´m feeling a better someone.
The absinthe that I tasted was someting like 75% vol. alcohol and was a mix between anise and toothpaste. Now I will try to find some other flavour (acting as if I were a teenager, but I have to confess I left my rockstar life many years ago...)

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Originally posted by lushmachine


I would believe you but for the comic aspect of this thread, I'm willing to pretend you're on "something good" at least once a while. Honestly, I'm not into drugs at all because of very hard lessons learned early in my life, so I take the subject in jest in many ways.

Yeah, but just once in a while. I also had some hard lessons too, so the most I´m into is an innocent little "porro" (this is how we call here the pot cigar, my english is not that good in this topic, I don`t know how you call it, joint maybe?), but is not something I do often...

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Sandro. Shakira. Elvis. Goth Shakira? My head is spinning a bit.

Goth Shakira. With her black shirt, her white tie and her pantys. And her violet hair. Maybe apocalypse is near...

Note: Oh busy busy hard days... I need vacation...

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Originally posted by LePand
Yeah, but just once in a while. I also had some hard lessons too, so the most I´m into is an innocent little "porro" (this is how we call here the pot cigar, my english is not that good in this topic, I don`t know how you call it, joint maybe?), but is not something I do often...

I'm almost sure it's called a "blunt" here.

Argh, yes, call me Debbie Downer or whatever, but I experienced two drug-related deaths at age fifteen and that was enough for me. Even before my teenage brain could decide to try anything other than alcohol, any curiosity I may have ever had is long buried with those two bodies of old friends. Even now, nearly fifteen years later, I still cannot forget the power substances had over them in life. That is how people are shaped, though.

My poisons of choice are caffeine and vodka, in that order. I don't even smoke but I still use the "cool" icon. :cool:

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Goth Shakira. With her black shirt, her white tie and her pantys. And her violet hair. Maybe apocalypse is near...

I've never seen this and I dare not Google for photos! Meanwhile, the term "goth" is so odd. I try not to let labels bother me in life but this term sometimes does. Just when I argue with someone that I am not "goth" I realize I'm wearing mostly black, find many morbid things lovely, and visions of Eric Draven dance in my head.