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Donnerstag, 29. Juni 2006, 12:41

Thought of the Day

“The only thing that stops God from sending another flood is that the first one was useless.”

- Chamfort
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Freitag, 30. Juni 2006, 16:39

Someone inspired me to quote this today:

"Art gives man a reminder that he is not just a consumer but a creator as well. It awakens in him the urge to struggle and perform great deeds; it fills him with the craving to pass on the Promethean fire to generations to come".

- Stanislaw Lem
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Samstag, 1. Juli 2006, 14:59

“My only wish is…to transform friends of God into friends of man, believers into thinkers, devotees of prayer into devotees of work, candidates for the hereafter into students of the world, Christians who, by their own procession and admission, are "half animal, half angel" into persons, into whole persons.”

- Ludwig Feuerbach
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Samstag, 1. Juli 2006, 19:42

Ich lebe mein Leben in wachsenden Ringen,
Die sich über die Dinge ziehen.
Ich werde den letzten vielleicht nicht vollbringen,
aber versuchen will ich ihn.

Rainer Maria Rilke

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@Atma: nice citations!

Stanislaw Lem : r.i.p. - acquiescat in pace -
"I myself am pursueing the same instinctive course as the veriest human animal you can think of - I am however young, starring at particles of light in the midst of great darkness." (John Keats)

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Sonntag, 2. Juli 2006, 13:02

:)

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“We do not have to visit a madhouse to find disordered minds; our planet is the mental institution of the universe.”

- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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Sonntag, 2. Juli 2006, 16:20

Nature has no prejudices.
"I myself am pursueing the same instinctive course as the veriest human animal you can think of - I am however young, starring at particles of light in the midst of great darkness." (John Keats)

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Montag, 3. Juli 2006, 13:20

“Such as are your habitual thoughts, such also will be the character of your mind; for the soul is dyed by the thoughts”

- Marcus Aurelius
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Dienstag, 4. Juli 2006, 11:23

“...love is knowing all about someone, and still wanting to be with them more than any other person, love is trusting them enough to tell them everything about yourself, including the things you might be ashamed of, love is feeling comfortable and safe with someone, but still getting weak knees when they walk into a room and smile at you.”

(anonymous)
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Mittwoch, 5. Juli 2006, 15:01

“This life's dim windows of the soul
Distorts the heavens from pole to pole
And leads you to believe a lie
When you see with, not through, the eye.”

- William Blake
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Donnerstag, 6. Juli 2006, 09:53

“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
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Freitag, 7. Juli 2006, 13:55

“What is life? An illusion, a shadow, a story, And the greatest good is little enough: for all life is a dream, and dreams themselves are only dreams...”

- Pedro Calderon de la Barca
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Samstag, 8. Juli 2006, 10:47

“The assumption that animals are without rights and the illusion that our treatment of them has no moral significance is a positively outrageous example of Western crudity and barbarity. Universal compassion is the only guarantee of morality."

"Compassion for animals is intimately connected with goodness of character and it may be confidently asserted that he who is cruel to animals cannot be a good man."

- Arthur Schopenhauer
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Sonntag, 9. Juli 2006, 08:57

Von der Natur aus gibt es weder Gutes noch Schlechtes. Diesen Unterschied hat die menschliche Meinung gemacht.

(Setus Empiricus, gr. Philosoph, 2. Jhd. n. Chr.)
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Sonntag, 9. Juli 2006, 11:52

“The philosopher has never killed any priest, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers.”

- Denis Diderot
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Sonntag, 9. Juli 2006, 17:07

animals

@Atma :
Schopenhauer was quite cruel, too. He has once beaten his house-keeper quite
badly.

Humankind is the crown of creation (?).

Well, surviving always includes doing harm to others. And I´d say it´s worse
to harm a human than to hurt an animal.

Animal-rigths can only exist in a society that is without any great problem.

And I think vegetarianism isn´t the "right" way - we are born `omnivores`.
Naturally born killers. :D




"There in no place for liberalism in evolution." IMO
"I myself am pursueing the same instinctive course as the veriest human animal you can think of - I am however young, starring at particles of light in the midst of great darkness." (John Keats)

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Sonntag, 9. Juli 2006, 18:36

RE: animals

Zitat

Originally posted by Evolutz
@Atma :
Schopenhauer was quite cruel, too. He has once beaten his house-keeper quite
badly.

Humankind is the crown of creation (?).

Well, surviving always includes doing harm to others. And I´d say it´s worse
to harm a human than to hurt an animal.

Animal-rigths can only exist in a society that is without any great problem.

And I think vegetarianism isn´t the "right" way - we are born `omnivores`.
Naturally born killers. :D


Well, I think it's bad to hurt anyone no matter if it's animal or human (tho, we are all animals).

I don't eat meat for over 14 years now... and believe it or not, I'm still alive. I think that if I can survive without meat... why should I eat it? Anyway, I guess everyone has a piece of brain, and is doing what he thinks is right. For me the right thing is to treat animals with respect. I've seen so much cruelty towards animals and I think that the comparision: abattoir = concentration camp is wellchosen. I've never seen a worst beast than human kind..., and I am not pretending to be a moral hero, I'm only human too, I can't change the world, tho I'm trying to change myself. This is sth I think is right. So I do what is right imo. Nothing more nothing less.

PS. I think that the biggest problem of any society is that it's easier for them to take things as they are than to try and change them. Like for some it's easier to believe in god than think for themselves (imo).
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Montag, 10. Juli 2006, 10:31

“It is proof of a base and low mind for one to wish to think with the masses or majority, merely because the majority is the majority. Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people.”

- Giordano Bruno
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Montag, 10. Juli 2006, 16:48

Zitat

I think that the biggest problem of any society is that it's easier for them to take things as they are than to try and change them. Like for some it's easier to believe in god than think for themselves (imo


I definitely agree. And : :) Just think about the Genesis - ... and God said:
"Man may rule the world." (I don´t know the right translation).
And it seems that mankind is the most successful beast the world has ever seen.
So why shouldn´t this animal use other animals for its purpose?
Animals don´t have any moral categories - so why should man be ethical in his
behaviour towards its cattle. Well, I don´t think that cattle is always treated in
the right way, but if the chicken for example are treaten wrong I don´t want it
to change because the chicken would be doing better, but because I want this
chicken to be a healthy "product" for mans´ nutrition.
By the way:
In a world with billions of people without enough food or other bad living conditions it is - in my eyes - a bit perverd to think of animal-"rights" ( they don´t have any rights in the Germand Constitution
because they are treated like things - even though ecological aspects have to play a certain role).

I am sorry, but I am no longer a candidate of idealism. (bad experiences in politics)
As a consequence I can´t agree with idealistic people any longer;
please don´t take it "personal" - that´s no personal offense.

I have lost any idealism.
"I myself am pursueing the same instinctive course as the veriest human animal you can think of - I am however young, starring at particles of light in the midst of great darkness." (John Keats)

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Montag, 10. Juli 2006, 20:19

I'm an atheist, so the bible is not much of an authority for me. Tho, because every day I must deal with lots of strange philosophical theories, I had to read the "holy" pages (damn bloody ones). But if for you the religion is somehow important then I'm sure you've heard about a person called Saint Francis of Assisi who's a patron of animals (brotherhood of all creatures) and environment (...)

Respect for animals is not about any ideology (tho, I don't look at this in such categories), it's a matter of an individual character. And there are lots of things that ppl could learn from animals...

Also, there's not much of a common sense in the sentence you wrote: "In a world with billions of people without enough food or other bad living conditions it is - in my eyes - a bit perverd to think of animal-"rights" (...)" - cause there's simply no need to choose one instead of the other. Helping animals, and respecting their rights does not exclude helping ppl. The truth is that production of animals for food is far more expensive than production of plants. If all the money that go into meat industry could be spend for veg food, the world would have much more food for everyone. The problem is that the meat industries will never let it happen, cause ppl who rule them don't want to bancrupt... and so on.

I'm not an idealist in that matter, I said: I know I can't change the world, I'm trying to change myself; and I don't force anyone to do what I do (it never works this way). But for sure I'm a realist. Money rule the world.
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Dienstag, 11. Juli 2006, 13:48

"...And never a human voice comes near
To speak a gentle word:
And the eye that watches through the door
Is pitiless and hard:
And by all forgot, we rot and rot,
With soul and body marred.

(...)

And all men kill the thing they love,
By all let this be heard,
Some do it with a bitter look,
Some with a flattering word,
The coward does it with a kiss,
The brave man with a sword!"


- Oscar Wilde (The Ballad of Reading Goal, 1898.)
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